http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/11/1329014/-McCain-nostalgic-for-the-good-old-days-when-Bush-had-Iraq-won?detail=email
The short version of McCain's argument? In his words:
Fact that they didn't leave a residual force in Iraq, overruling all of his military advisers, is the reason why we're facing ISIS today.
Not only that:
We had it won, thanks to the surge. It was won. The victory was there. All we needed was a force behind to provide support, not to engage in combat, but to supply support, logistics, intelligence.
Which, McCain said, was exactly what George W. Bush wanted to do. And if you don't believe him ...
... you can ask Condoleezza Rice, or George W. Bush.
Carney then pointed out that Iraq didn't want U.S. troops to remain and, more importantly:
I think it is a basically a whitewash of history to suggest that there was not -- were not periods of enormous chaos and fighting and bloodshed in Iraq when there were tens of thousands of troops, of American troops on the ground. That is a fact. [...] The United States of America ask our military to be a permanent occupying force in a country like Iraq.
McCain's response: Oh yes we can. For example:
... [after] the Korean War, we left troops behind. Bosnia, we left troops behind. Not to fight but be a stabilizing force.
as a member of the alleged fiscally responsible ones he failed to mention the cost to our deficit from one of their own,
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?272904-How-much-does-the-U-S-spend-per-year-on-foreign-bases
We have nearly 30,000 troops in South Korea today, but even if he had 30,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, it wouldn't change the fact that Iraq is not South Korea, something that McCain stubbornly refused to acknowledge.
But in a way, all of that is a distraction from the most fundamental question: Whether ISIL truly is a big enough threat to America to justify his vision for tens of thousands of troops in Iraq. And his argument for why ISIL does pose such a threat was this:
We had a hearing, and there was testimony from the counterterrorism people and the Department of Homeland Security. There is Twitter traffic right now and Facebook traffic, where they are urging attacks on the United States of America. And there is a great concern that our southern border and our northern border is porous and that they will be coming across.
So because some militant fanatics are using Twitter and Facebook to encourage attacks against America, and because McCain believes our border is porous, we should essentially fight the Iraq War all over again? Yeesh. That makes about as much sense as ... saying that Sarah Palin is the most-qualified person in America to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
where do you think we would be now had he been elected 2008? saber waving and leakin info about strategies they all need to realize that old WWII standard, "loose lips sink ships" think he would know that especially he being a Navy man that served on my ship in 1967 USS FORRESTA CVA-59 read about him Google Forrestal fire/ john mccain
