http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/03/1427420/-Armed-Vet-proves-NRA-wrong-and-explains-why-he-didn-t-confront-Oregon-Killer-with-Good-Guy-Gun?detail=email
In a predictable response to yet another mass gun murder, we are already hearing the loud cries that more guns are what was needed in the situation. Concealed carry is the solution, and all this death is actually the fault of "gun-free zones." That was Republican Nevada state representative Michele Fiore's argument, who wrote the following on her blog:
“I have said it before and I will say it again: I believe that an armed society is a safe society,” Fiore wrote.
“Labeling a public place a ‘gun-free zone’ will not create a non-violent environment for citizens; in fact, it does the opposite. By creating this illusion, we, as a country, are putting targets on the backs of our children, our families and our selves,” she continued. “While the President has already used this tragedy to feed his anti-gun agenda by saying that these killings have become ‘routine’, what he fails to mention is the truly routine pattern of these terrible crimes is that they happen in gun-free zones. Places where people have been rendered defenseless by the government.”
But the fact is that Oregon does have a concealed-carry law, and that technically it supersedes the "gun free zone" requirement. In fact, there were multiple students on campus at Umpqua Community College who were in fact legally armed and carrying, including veteran John Parker [pictured above] who was on the scene and carrying his weapon. But Mr. Parker had various reasons for not drawing his weapon and charging into the fight. The first among them was that he very well could've have been a target for S.W.A.T. and a distraction from the real shooter.
It's not like the "bad guys" running around with guns have a big sign that says "Shoot Me" pinned on their back. Police are going to think anyone who's armed is probably the bad guy.
“The recent spike in mass shootings across the nation is truly troubling,” Ramsey wrote. “Whether the perpetrators are motivated by aggressive secularism, jihadist extremism or racial supremacy, their targets remain the same: Christians and defenders of the West.”
Uh, yeah... way to play the "victim" card there, man. Nobody ever gets shot but Christians? Sure. Never mind the thousands of Muslims who are being massacred by I.S.I.L. in Syria and Iraq. That's obviously nothing to be concerned with. Anyway, let's listen to what someone who actually had a gun on the UCC campus has to say about it all.
again republican response more artillery ignoring the tremendous potential for collateral deaths in crowded venues training never enough you don't train in the real life situation cardboard opponents don't hold a gun bigger than yours capable of killing you nor do they have that look that freezes the average person. even practicing trying to be a gunslinger ain't the same as staring at someone who will kill you at least in your mind.
Parker explained that his military training provided him with the skills to “go into danger,” but said he felt lucky he and others didn’t try to get involved going after Mercer.
“Luckily we made the choice not to get involved,” he explained. “We were quite a distance away from the building where this was happening. And we could have opened ourselves up to be potential targets ourselves, and not knowing where SWAT was, their response time, they wouldn’t know who we were. And if we had our guns ready to shoot, they could think that we were bad guys.”
Parker noted that he was hustled into a classroom with other students by a professor who asked if anyone was armed. He said he raised his hand and said he would attempt to protect his fellow students if they came under attack.
mixed feelings about motive to stand down points cited valid more concern for self in explanation and he's the guy supposedly with war training which includes common sense not gangbusters because you are strapped he's right that increases the potential of more deaths. so i guess bottom line you had the proverbial good guys with guns and nothing was thwarted instead end game was still the same, NRA full of DEADLY BS.
