Friday, March 13, 2015

MSNBC host tries to clean up the mess her show made blaming hip-hop for the racist SAE chant

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/12/1370496/-MSNBC-host-tries-to-clean-up-the-mess-they-made-blaming-hip-hop-for-the-racist-SAE-chant?detail=email

Screenshot of MSNBC Conversation

A day after an MSNBC panel on Morning Joe attempted to blame hip-hop music for a racist fraternity chant about lynching black men, the co-host of the show, Mika Brzezinski, made a valiant attempt to clean it all up, but fell short. In her interview, seen in full below the fold, she has no sincere explanation for the following statement that was made yesterday after she introduced hip-hop into the conversation with Joe Scarborough and Bill Kristol:
“Popular culture becomes a cesspool, a lot corporations profit off of it, and then people are surprised that some drunk 19-year-old kids repeat what they’ve been hearing,” said Bill Kristol. He added that Tipper Gore “tried to raise this issue, and was widely ridiculed,” referring to the parental advisory labels the future V-FLOTUS enacted after her daughter purchased Purple Rain thirty years ago.
“The kids that are buying hip hop or gangster rap, it’s a white audience, and they hear this over and over again,” Joe Scarborough said. “So do they hear this at home? Well, chances are good, no, they heard a lot of this from guys like this who are now acting shocked.”
Instead of saying they just got it dead wrong, she denied that was ever how they felt, and then again pivoted back to hip-hop and how a discussion on why hip-hop artists use the "N word" was still very timely and appropriate.
The thing is, though, the conversation about hip-hop artists using the "N word" is completely irrelevant and is only being brought up as a distraction for the real matter at hand—shockingly ugly racism from elite college students.
i agree i can understand joe going off on this,  i also am aware of Mika's almost gag order on most topics he cross talks her and shuts her down.  she now has a special on women's worth and doesn't seem to know or exercise her's.  that said i think joe should have been the one to try to explain the attempt not so subtly to take the blame off the White racist kids and put it on the Black culture.  i'm 66 i used the N word throughout my life i make a conscious effort not to now even though i slip at times and as a negative, i'm working on it.  i remember in that segment his saying in the south he never knew or heard of that kind of racial acts, want to buy some dead cockroaches??

it was not our word it was a word of degradation toward my people never a term of anything else until after decades of our using it in the same manner we embraced it as our expression but with a much lighter inference  and both as a negative and positive, and to mentally change the word and meaning from what it was.  now it has morphed back to a negative and what it's original intent for southern Whites was and to say we use it so they have that freedom of speech thing they can too by doing so it turned the word in rap lyrics back to what they originally used it as.

when rap came to use it it was viewed as a negative because i think mostly the inference and inflection it was used with not to mention the White kids embracing it wholeheartedly scared hell out of their parents thinking somehow condemning it makes it appear more like their kids were somehow influenced like a cult that relieves them of responsibility and that the kids are good just taken over my the "evil gangsta rap".  hip hop was not profane or vulgar it was ours and i like it in old school form. somewhere along the line it got usurped by the rap and became one in the same for those who didn't know.  IMO we took it from those who used it as a racial epithet and made it "a Black thing", those who introduced it felt they could take it back and use it their way since it was theirs first.  the negative way they use it is why they feel that they should blame us again for their racism taking only in their heads the weight off them and helping to okay the word because the very one's that it was directed at use it too.